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Thursday, January 17, 2008

Palestine-Israel - a Bush Sea-Change? Charles Smith

I am delighted to revise part of my earlier comments to note that President Bush did address Palestinian-Israeli issues in his Abu Dhabi speech and did call on Israel as well as the Palestinians to make sacrifices: acceptance of a Palestinian state was necessary for Israel's long-term security, in his words. This is noteworthy - what will come of it remains to be seen, especially with respect to how these remarks are interpreted not only in the region but in the U.S.
One sign of alarm comes from Daniel Pipes, always a good sign. Pipes is so perturbed that he has written an op-ed in today's (1/17) Jerusalem Post condeming the idea of, quote, a "sovereign" Palestine. Pipes states that "the mischievous goal of creating 'Palestine' [his quotes] will inspire more fervor to eliminate the Jewish state, especially if accompanied by a Palestinian 'right of return'." [his quotes]
Pipes makes clear here what was only suspected before. Pro-Likud alarmists like Pipes oppose the creation of any Palestinian state in principle since any state will supposedly seek to eliminate Israel; therefore it should be opposed. What the alternative is is carefully avoided. Admittedly Pipes qualifies this by his reference to the right of return issue, but analysts in general accept that in reality there will only be a token return accepted. What is important to Palestinians is that the issue should be negotiated, not rejected and taken off the table before talks begin. As former security chief Ami Ayalon has noted, what Palestinians want is Israeli acknowledgement of the PRINCIPLE of a Palestinian right of return. This would mean that Israel would also be acknowledging that the creation of Israel led to the Palestinian refugee problem that now creates the demand for a right of return.
That Israeli forces, official and terrorist (Irgun, LEHI), participated in the ousting of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians is no longer in question for scholars, other than those on the far right of the Israeli spectrum. But dealing with historical reality is difficult for many Israelis. Prime Minister Olmert has stated he will never admit that Israel played a role in the Palestinian exodus and Likud historian Efraim Karsh is now the leader of "Project 1948" sponsored by the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies (besacenter.org) at Bar-Ilan University and championed by former prime minister Bibi Netanyahu; Project 1948 is dedicated to publishing the "basic truths" of what occured.
With this in mind we can look forward to "scholarly" publications on the issue, especially if matters come to the point where actual negotiations occur, as opposed to preliminary forays and subsequent denials of accomplishments. But there is hope that we can also look forward to further encouraging and surprisingly balanced statements from the president. Whether that inspires any American presidential candidates of either party to openly applaud the president, and thus appear to even tacitly question Israeli policy in an election year, is an entirely different question. But it does put them in the dilemma as to whether they should openly oppose him, with Rudy Guiliani being the exception - his advisers include Pipes, Martin Kramer, and Norman Podhoretz.
But, for now, despite the obstacles to found in the region, we have a somewhat sophisticated and open statement addressing both sides from an unexpected source. That itself is an accomplishment.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

Bush's sudden discovery of the Palestine-Israel conflict worries me in that it would seem that there has to be at least the perception of settling things there before a war against Iran could be launched. Is this a prelude to war with Iran? All the other signs point to yes.

Anonymous said...

Be very careful of those who claim to know about Arab plans to destroy Israel. Isn't it Israel who is currently engaged in destroying Palestine ?

When someone starts fear mongering, pay close attention. They are the ones usually engaged in such destruction.

Israel and America r the ones dropping bombs, invading, intimidating and threatening. I don't see Israel or America being bombed, do you ?

This mentality of "let's kill them before they kill us" is pure nonsense and only serves to cover up who the real aggressor and "evil doers" are.

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much for these important observations, as before. But, I fear you are giving far too much credit to President Bush who will in no way pressure Israel to compromise with the Palestinians. Israel presently has no intention of meaningful compromise. I see no chance of a lessening of the stalemate. No chance; and I follow the matter minutely.

Please do continue with these so important observations, no matter the doubts I may express.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like the Zionists have their own "denier" problem. In the mirror. It's the unavoidable logic of being a selected [self that is] people. If the U.S. shut off the money spout they'd get reasonable real fast. They can afford to be unreasonable they are spending my money.

Castellio said...

Israel is spending your money.. and there is nothing you can do about it.

caddidy said...

A couple of observations. Nothing objectionable about professor Smith's observcations. But I do believe you're overestimating the influence & power of what you describe as the Likudnik forces. If you follow current events, it's clear that Maarach (Labor) and what remains of Kadima after Lieberman's resignation far outweigh the hard right wing. Come the 30th of the month and the publication of the Winograd conclusions, the constellation of forces may very well get further shaken up.

As far as the comments to your piece, I'm amazed at the bile - especially the guy taking a cheap shot with the "selected" (i.e. chosen people crack. Amazing how we can't conduct a thorough airing of different POV's without the haters swinging by to stink up the joint.

Anonymous said...

Since Jews claim to be the "Chosen People", how can it be a slur to describe them as such?

Anonymous said...

I don't think so that Bush will do something this is only words for public relations he thinks that people will catch again and it seems that autohor of this article was caught. There will be no palestinian state only Bantustans on which Israel will have full control eventually symbolic power will be given to traitors from Fatah

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